TAKING THINGS FOR GRANTED!
It was mid july 2006. I had just joined as a CEO of a Hospitality compay. I was to conduct an interview for selection of a ‘Manager -Marketing and Sales’ for my company. I received a lot of ‘resumes’—all high profile and highly experienced persons. I shortlisted five candidates, who were MBAs from renowned Institutes and had a good academic career. I worked out the programme of selection to get a hang of their self- confidence, knowledge and inter-personal communication skills . I had decided to put them through a GROUP DISCUSSION TEST, followed by a LECTURETTE TEST and culminating into PERSONAL INTERVIEW with me and my MD.The five persons were very well qualified and adequately experienced for the job. One could have blindly picked up anyone based on their academic achievements and years of experiences. But I had different ideas, as I believe one should not go by the razzle-dazzle of the surface but look beneath it. You see the WHITE WASHED WALLS MIGHT SEEM SOOTHING TO THE EYES BUT THEY HIDE THEIR HOLLOWNESS.
So, as per my plans, I put them through a group discussion. I gave a very funny subject for the discussion. It was how to KICK THAT DOG OUT? It was a very vague subject and I wanted them to show their capability to grasp and reflect. You see a good salesman is the one who can sell a Refrigerator to an ESKIMO or any one who lures a bald person to buy a comb. You should be good in inter-personal communications. I will give only their gist and thrust of arguments—because the whole discussion carried on for two hours. This is how they started off.
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Sumesh Chohan (Name changed for reasons of privacy) : Well, it is niether a phrase nor a maxim I would like to first know its meaning. (Everyone looks at me but I just shake my shoulders as gesture.) I suppose this term is used for a ‘bad head’ in an organisation and how do we go about getting rid of him? He could be a constant nuisance—always critical of management—whatever it does.His presence is a bad influence on every one. He needs to be weeded out at the earliest.
Rajveer(Name changed): I do not agree. It has nothing to do with an organisation but ‘Self’. ‘Dog’ is a euphemism used for the ‘Anger’ and ‘Bad Temper’. I think it boils down to controlling your anger and remaining cool under crisis. This we can do so by practising ‘Yoga’. Anger-management is a must to have smooth working relations in any organisation—particularly when you are in the ‘Sales and Marketing’ job. Your irritation can lead you to antagonising your clients.
Kaviraj(name changed): No, it is not ‘anger’ but the ‘inefficiency’ and the ‘inability’ of a man. I reckon the term seeks to improve upon the efficiency in an individual. If you are a good at your work no one can kick you out like a dog. Incompetence leads to your failure and also your entrenchment. I suppose ‘Kicking the dog’ would imply to enhance your efficiency by removing your shortcomings.This demands your constant upgradation of your skills and knowledge.
Lakhmir Singh(name changed): I think the ‘dog symbolises’ extreme loyality which can also be seen as sycophancy. It is no doubt loyality is needed but its excess leads to resentment and friction within any organisation. I reckon the whole question is about how to remove sychophancy from the organisation. It is basically a function of Top Management.
Manoj Kumar(name changed): I somehow see the ‘Dog’ as a sense of complascency in individuals and organisations. It leads to ‘over-confidence’. This makes the people lazy and lethargic. As a result, inefficiency sets in. I think we have to look at the whole issue from the point of view of how to check complascency stting in. All the same, we must know what it really means before we proceed further. Would you like to clarify, sir? (Manoj had thrown a querry at me.)
Sumesh: Yes, sir, You might like to tell us the real meaning of the term “Kick That Dog Out”, so as to allow us to progress further.
Rajveer: Am I right, sir, to assume that it is predominance of anger and ‘short- tempered-nature’? Definitely, it has ought to concern an individual.
Kaviraj: Rajveer, you are right but it has nothing to with anger but your own inefficiency. I think we must focus on its reduction.
Lakhmir: Well! let us think it has something to do with Sycophancy. Sycophants are not only inefficient and incompetent but also parasites on the organisation and they eat it up.
Manoj : I am afraid we are discussing irrelevant things. It could have been “DONKEY” in place of “DOG”. Dogs and Donkeys are required in the organisations to make them survive and withstand the shocks. A dog and a donkey, headed by a monkey, makes the team perfect----
Sumesh : What do you mean by a perfect Team?
Manoj : You see –a dog represents loyality---a donkey represents a slogger/industrious person and the ‘monkey’ stands for a smart and a intelligent guy.
Lakhmir: What do you mean by smart and intelligent? Does it mean intellect and knowledge or people adept at exploiting opportunities? What about academic qualifications?
Manoj: Somehow I feel that academic qualifications do not reflect the real capabilities of an individual. They misguide more than they can assist you. Most often I hear the phrase that Mr SO AND SO is a genious. My only advice to them is GENIOUSES are fine as SHOW PIECES but they are not MEN of ACTIONS.
Kaviraj : So you think the perfect organisation requires a combination of duffers and clever people to balance the organisation. Well! but ‘genious’ has nothing to do with academic qualificatons. Did you see that move “Rain man”?
Manoj : Exactly, this is what I meant—the character played by that famous actor—as elder brother of Tom Cruise------------
Myself: Cut it out gentlemen. I am afraid I have to intervene. I tell you a story. Here it is:
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Many many years ago(1984-86) I was in a premier institute as an instructor what you might like to call a ‘teacher’ or a ‘lecturer’ in your vocabulary. I was conducting a class on ‘Leadership and Management’. The young students were very keen participants and each one had his own point of view. Our discussion veered around to the difference between Leadership and management. As an academician, I told them them that leadeship was part of management---leaders only deal with human beings, whereas managers deal with both human beings as well as the resources. Therefore, a manager has to be perforce a leader, too. This was not sinking into one of our very bright students----I suppose his name was Chinnappa(real name). He would not comprehend this. He insisted that the leader had to be responsible for the both. Our Head of the Institute, Sh Y N sharma was also sitting there, too. As the discussion on this aspect touched limits of absurdity, Sh YN Sharma intervened.
YN Sharma: Four decades back, I was in the second class in a village school. Our teacher Sh Bhagwan Dass was teaching us the tables. We were to learn the table of TWO. He had lined up 10 pups. He made these pups stand in pairs, next to the door. He started of with first pair. He counted them as two and said it is one pair---simply TWO ONES ARE TWO. Then he joined the second pair and said TWO –TWOS are four—as he said that a dog appeared in the doorway. Bhagwan Dass was not looking at the door—he asked Roopchand, a student as to how much were TWO TWOS ARE?
RoopChand: Masterji, they are FIVE.
Bhagwan dass: Are you blind? Can’t you count?
Roop chand: I can count—They are five.
Bhagwan Dass: shut up and Sitdown. Suresh, you tell me the answer.
Suresh : Sir, they make five.
Bhagwan Dass: shut up. Ok, Yogender Nath you tell me.
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YN SHARMA: The question was directed at me. And I replied—Masterji, Four PUPS and one dog. This alerted the teacher. He furiously swung back and saw the dog with four pups. He shouted: KICK THAT DOG OUT. And how many, now? I said “four”. To say the least, sometimes we take things for granted. We see them as we had perceived and learnt but in reality they might be covered by a web of unwanted stuff. Therefore to see the reality, we have to KICK THE DOG OUT. In other words, to uncover TRUTH WE HAVE TO KICK OUT LIES. While your instructor is right , he has taken things for granted because Leadership and Management, today have a very thin line dividing them. It is this thin line which Chinappa is not able to see because your instructor is taking certain things understood by most of you. What he was not telling you is that management was a science and Leadership was a discipline under it. In leadership, there are three things i.e. SITUATION, PEOPLE and THE LEADER . Leaders have certain traits most essential to stand them out in a mob. It is also called TRAIT VALIDITY CONCEPT of leadership. But, here we were discussing the SITUATIONAL MODEL. In management ,there are four things i.e. PEOPLE or THE ORGANISATION, MANAGER Or THE BOSS, MATERIAL or the RESOURCES and OBJECTIVE OR THE SITUATION. To cut the story short, a manager has to be a leader whereas a leader need not not be a manager—such as military leaders—political leaders etc. Leaders rally people around themselves but managers organise people around themselves.
As soon as I finished the story I asked, “ Have you now understood the meaning of the phrase “KICK THAT DOG OUT”. Every one said,”Yes, sir” but Manoj further amplified, “ Now, let us Kick that dog Out”. Every one was stunned. To say the least, ultimately it was “MANOJ” who was selected. Can you make out as to why? Have your take but KICK THAT DOG OUT OF YOUR MIND FIRST. Close
Thanks, I actually got tips for preparing for next interviews
To be on serious side, I am not sure how much any certification adds to someones knowlege, but surely I have seen HR and Management go after people from some big institute or in technical field having some kind of certification, this I felt personaly being in IT field, when HR guys tell us in their big tone... 'U must consider this guy... he/she does have XYZ certification....' but I found most of them lacking basic practical knowledge even....
But yes you never know what a HR person is looking in you while doing a screening.... afterall they are on the other side of the table....
Eagerly waiting for your L&M Series to start
Poonam
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Dear Poonam,
Thanks for your words of encouragement. My aim is to pass on the KNOWLEGE to those who are interested to know--I am hinting at the QUALITY OF READERSHIP----I am not intersted in the quantity of redership.
I am grateful to you for reading this post--which carries a definite message for HR people as to how to go about SCREENING ---then-----shortlist and what to look for. You see HIGH SOUNDING ACADEMIC QUALIFICATIONS---from HIGHLY RATED INSTITUTES are no gurantee that the selected guy would fill the slot properly.
You see MANAGEMENT is getting more and more complicated---it does not ACADEMIC QUALIFICATIONS BUT EXPERIENCED AND CAPABLE PERSONS. More on this in my L&M series which I will start around 25th May 2008.
Thanks, dear. Regards. Rajee.
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Dear Swayamprava,
Thanks a lot for reading such a lengthy post--winding and meandring at times. I am impressed with your patience. i am also grateful to you for the kind words of appreciation. so, nice of you.
Yeap, I have read your note and I do wish to thank you.You will find the change in my future write-ups. I will like to just emphasise that I ENJOY WRITING---I am in love with it---REDERSHIP, THOUGH ESSENTIAL, is a secondary OBJECTIVE---it is a passion with me---THEREFORE, you would have seen all my posts do not draw much readership---it is because I have not given it much importance. Now since well-wishers like you want me to enlarge my readership , I will make efforts to write in a style that suits the tastes of a FAST FOOD GENERATION---but it might not be a complete transformation. I will continue to write--irrespective of the readership--Also, I am more interested in the QUALITY of readership than the QUANTITY.
Regards. Rajee.
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Rajee,
Thanku so much first of all to teach us such a in a very good way.. hats off to you... so yes Let us kick the dog out....
Poonam
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Dear Rajee,
Wow...What a write up! I am quite amused as well as stunned to see the way you prove your points quite logically just to the point......Sending you a note....
Regards
Swayam
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Dear swarajya,
I respect your views and appreciate your concern but I do not think you have read the whole post. It has nothing to do with the Head of The organisation. It is a case of taking things for granted by an individual---in whatever capacity. It is to safeguard your organisations from the adverse effects of environments. The DOG here refers to BAD INFLUENCES FROM OUTSIDE which falsify YOUR TRUTH. It is to KICK OUT THOSE things. Regards. rajee.
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I did not like the topic "Kick That Dog Out", given for discussion.How to kick the ineffective Head Of An Organisation is definitely not a healthy topic for discussion.In my opinion the candidates may have negative impact by such topics.
Thanks for presenting a case study on Management.
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Dear Ashualec,
Thanks for comments but you remain elusive or what they say in Hindustani---EID KA CHAND---Anyway thanks for lovely comments. Keep comoing regards. Rajee.
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Dear QM,
Very very interesting qestion you have raised and I would like to answer it in peace. I shall be touching this aspect at length in my L&M (LEADERSHIP & MANAGEMENT) series which I will begin around 25th May 2008.
For the time being one ought to know the difference between 'leading and managing'. You lead men-- always being in the forefront---you do not lead resuorces--you muster them ---you arrange them, which is management. In fact in the MILTARY PARLANCE one could say, COMMAND is something akin to MANAGEMENT but COMMAND is much more than it. Besides managing and leading, a Commander is also responsible for the safety and welfare of his command. In fact I will advise you to read two books, one "MADE IN JAPAN" by Akio Morita by founder of SONY CORPORATION and two, "IACOCCA ON IACOCCA" --an ex CEO of FORDS in 80's who was later sacked. These two books will give you an idea of two different systems of management---ONE OF FAMILY BONDING AND IDENTIFICATION and SECOND OF 'HIRE AND FIRE'. I don't have to talk much about military leadership but it must be kept away from the BUSINESS ETHICS it is getting afflicted with. while I say this I am also aware of the ongoing SOCIAL TRANSFORMATION and it cascading effect on soldiers and solldiering.
As regarding your second point ---on managing change--I think you must be aware of "CRISIS IN COMMAND" by Paul savage and RICHARD Gabriel. you are heading that way. We do have a total mutiliation of our values due to NON ANTICIPATION of change by GENERALS of INDIAN ARMY--after 1971 war. It became as a trickle but it has now become a deluge. TEHLEKA was the symptom--KARGIL-99 was the warning and nothing was done. Today LT GENERALS are being COURT MARTIALLED--UNHEARD OF--Where would be the values in the system IF THE CUSTODIANS OF THE VALUES HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE PIRATES OF THE SYSTEM. Globalisation is a mere excuse--pour down slide began in and around 1971.
If you are interested I can E-MAIL you the CHAPTER OF MY FORTHCOMING BOOK," KASHMIR--THE CURSE AND CURE OF HISTORY". I have discussed the sad affairs of GENERALSHIP in the army since 1971 till date. The synopsis of the book is posted on SULEKHA. If you are interested The link is :
http://rajee.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/04/kashmir-a-curse-and-cure-of-its-history.htm
another glimpse of the book--an excerpt is:-
http://rajee.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/04/a-modern-folk-tale-from-kashmir.htm
All the same wait for my L&M Series to give you some glimpses of what I feel on these issues though I might not fully satisfy you. Regards. Rajee.
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Interesting topic , "kick that dog out" will remember this
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